Secrecy and Security and the NBM

Interesting dialogue between members regarding the need for greater secrecy within the organisation to bolster security from police interference. 

Some of the old guard detailing how things were done in the past and some members detailing how to use or how they have used members in government and law makers to stay out of the trouble.

 

 

SECRET CULTISM IN NBM
wariboko:

National Head,
NCOE,
Zonal Heads,
Zonal NCOE,
All Axemen World Wide,

I greet you once again in the African Culture, May i quickly draw your attention to the need for the removal of unethical ethiques, and wrong social conducts that have brought ill names to this movement.

A forthnight ago, over two dozen Axemen were arrested in Port Harcourt for their participation in the Hand Over Jolly in Okemini HT. Held in Etche in Rivers State were over fifty men attended from all works of life to grace an occasion that might be for some as a first time while to some others as a usual IT.

These sets of Strongmen were arrested at about 3-4am on returning from the that IT. Some escaped while others were helpless to the spontaneous response of the Vigilante group conjoint with Nigeria Police men. Which led to the arrest of 28Axemen at this Yuletide season.

May simply ask, why would Initiation always hold in the bush? Would there be any other safe place to hold initiation since we proud ourselves to be incorporated under the Company and allied matter act of 1990? Are we really secret cults? if we are not why do we still allow our temples to hold ITs in the bushes?

I believe we have lots of rebranding projects as stumbled upon one at the airport with the tags “say no to cultism” proudly African. Hence fellow strongmen who might have mounted that billboard are facing cultism charges in Port Harcourt Maximum Prison.

I think the way we sound in collecting Zonal dues, Forum dues,Temple Dues, and anything relating to Monetary terms in this movement should be reciprocated in policy creation that will move this movement forward.

I write with displeasure owing to how the State Anti Robbery Squad(SARS) who might have retrieved my numbered from the cellphone of an arrested axeman seeming to decode the kind of being i look like as to unleash same punishment in similitude of what happened to the rest despite the fact i was not in that IT. Possibly i would have suffered untold hardship from what i know not about. Graciously i was wise enough to scuttle their plans. Likewise might have been done to some Strongmen in Port Harcourt and their response might result them victims of an unknown scheme.

Can we start this reformation and let the world know we are not cultist but Rational Men.

May i leave it open to those who have powers above me to deal with these situation as it concern those languishing in Port Harcourt Prison Now, as it regards positive steps to avert such recurrence in future.

Being Strong Without Wisdom is Foolishness – MZDK

Mbata Mbete
OKHT’07
S’Eastern Zone

Patrice Lumumba:

Mbata Mbete,

NBM has tradition and customs that are imbedded in African tradition Religion, there are certain things that are not meant for the public eye and scrutiny, every organisation has a public side and a private or you can call it secret side that is meant for only members…. does that make them a secret cult?

Even among friends there are things that are only knowledgeable only to the circle of friends and not to people outside it, (talking about juus) does that make them a secret cult?

If you read some of the postings by FF, in the early days after the movement was born, the survival of the movement was largely in part because of the secrecy in which things were done, the members were known only by the members of NBM, and that gave us a edge over the other juu frats that were around at the time

Secrecy and surprise is a very vital weapon for anything, NBM wont be the same NBM again the day everything is done in the open. I am sure if the handing over was done more secretly this problem you mentioned now wont have been there, because the cops and vigilante probably acted on information.

The death of NBM will NEVER be heard of….. iseeee

i greet you
Aye Nelson Mandela
Ada 06′

wariboko:

I greet you lord Nelson Mandela,

I buy your idea on the private and public face of any organisation but it does not remove the fact that what the law abhors should not be a norm in NBM. May i furnish you with this knowledge that almost everything has a skeletal part of it before there was a covering.

Thus we should be done with Skeletal part of the Ini which entails the use of bush system of it. I believe if there is a resolution to better that side of this movement credible option will be out rather than the statusquo.

In this light we should do things that are Afro-Modern.

Lord Mbata Mbete
OKHT’07
South Eastern Zone

kiriji1:

Lord Mbata Mbete

First of all let me salute your courage for bringing up this topic

NBM needs serious reforms as concerns some of our practices and so called traditions.

NBM will never be the “greatest black organisation in the world” if our members are being arrested at 3 in the morning with guns, axes, charms, drugs and other excetera items

I hail

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I hail

Haile Selassie
INI: Kiriji 1991
IND: London 2010
London Zone
Email: kiriji1@yahoo.com
tel: 0044 7898938970
Destination 2012 – Uhuru is achievable…Dodorima to those who believe

uchvega:

Mii lords,

There are several tenets and traditions that have been imbibed in our organization. African culture. We Africans, live in close resonance with nature. We pour alcohol on the soil (not on concrete or marble) to honor our ancestors whose bones now lie beneath our feet. We use plants and have the night sky showcasing the celestial bodies over our heads. We are one with nature. Reason with any true CiPe for more understanding.

Secrecy being another one of the most important. Nowadays, a lot of codes, meanings are widely known and even understood & accepted as normal yarns in some areas. Which beats the whole purpose.

It is lamentable that some Axemen returning from an NBM meeting where arrested by combined units of vigilante and police teams but to call a spade a spade.
Quote:
The Eyes, Butchers and Criers are to blame and in effect, the Temple’s Coordination. Period!
Jolly, IT or any NBM meeting’s end does not mean that these above mentioned office functions have ended. First of all, the right (not just the usual) location must be used even if it means going further or paying more. Get better security. If the Butchers are able to maintain strict decorum among attendees of the event then there would be a huge reduction in alerting surrounding vigilante groups or any other kind of aggressive effect. This even applies to Zones in the diaspora.

The Eyes and Criers are most times the first ones out and if there is any kind of trouble; The information gets back to the House on time for any corrective or punitive measures to be undertaken.

NBM is a movement which also has some secret rites and doings. From the Temple to the National. You wouldn’t find any Temple, Zone broadcasting or televising their meetings. So those looking for an organization with everything public would never get it here.

Take a cue from other notable organizations (they are quite different from the NBM in terms of what they stand for, purposes, doctrine, etc) but they have coordinated and organized themselves to a higher degree of status quo.
* Skull & Bones
* Freemasons
* The Bilderberg Group
* Opus Dei
And so many other organizations with secret as well as public doings.

The Nigerian police force is wanting in several areas such as investigative and forensic techniques so hence their seemingly brutish mannerism. They are also easily influenced if one can reach the top brass (If you get me) – You have them performing part of security for some Temples and Zones these days.

Mii Lord from the S’Eastern Zone, I believe your Zone is the closest in relation to geographical distance and that Temple falls under your Zone’s jurisdiction (correct me if I’m wrong, Amigo). So your Zone should be able to tidy this up and those 28 Axemen would be granted bail or released asap.

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Lord Askia Mohammed De 2nd
Bermuda 1 HT ’99
Malaysia Zone (Timbuktu)

wariboko:

Askia Mohammed,

I greet your reasons and input to this subject matter, it implies we can grow and take corrections from the fall of our brother and close up the pits from which the fell into.

Your views were of the NBM conservative views without reference to time and modernity and socio-cultural changes from when the principles were made till now. Have their exist any change in our society from 1977 till this day?

We should be re-informed of things happening in our day to day environment so we don’t become victim of malignant ignorance. Today we’re having gross insecurity issues were every Nigerian is on the high alert and self defensive ranging from the Niger-Delta crisis which I, myself suffered to the resurgence of the Boko Haram incidence. Believe me if we intend to keep IT’s like this were the new Terrorism Bill gives the Police and other security agency permits the arrest of suspected terrorist. May i bring also to you view that it is terrifying for people to walk out from the bush en mass or simultaneously at 4am and you would want to wonder what are the Police doing.

A review at our principles, code of conduct, Belief and practice will elevate us from being victims of circumstances to becoming citizens of Uhuru.

I visited Port Harcourt prison today and reports shows the zones were assisting with all humanly effort.

I believe also that when we start questioning some ethics in our Belief and Practice we would refine them to better and standardize to pass on to the next generation. A wise saying goes this way “all kingdom must expire”. Its time for reformation, the old systems doesn’t work anymore.

Mbata Mbete
OKHT’07
S’Eastern Zone

“ASK AND IT SHALL BE GIVEN, SEEK AND YOU SHALL FIND KNOCK AND IT SHALL BE OPEN”- Lord Jesus Christ

donveejay:

Lord Mbata Mbete, I would like to know your proposal on this issue. What you want? Blending on top of rug in a hotel hall? Going to the bush is not for the mild hearted. It is a passage of rites. As Lord Kaduna Nzeogwu puts it, “The Eyes, Butchers and Criers are to blame and in effect, the Temple’s Coordination. Period”

This kind of situation as been happening for a long time where men are arrested after Jolly in fact I ve been in that situation but was lucky to escape and 2 days later we went back to finish the Jolly. Ayes who enter the bush normally goes there knowing the risk and thats why we have Eyes to check and properly validate the grounds and for Butchers to mount guard when Ayes are going and coming out from the bush.

NBM nor be small pikin thing and any Aye wen never enter bush nor fit know the essence of NBM. Weda u decorate am or call am anything na u know.

Lord Jesse Makoko
FJ 1 98
Member COE
Ireland Zone.

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Lord Jesse Makoko
FJ 1 98
Ireland Zone

wariboko:

Lord Jesse Makoko

I furnish you with my proposal below.
wariboko wrote:
A review at our principles, code of conduct, Belief and practice will elevate us from being victims of circumstances to becoming citizens of Uhuru.
I have never thought for a second that NBM was the childish stuff even if it was it should have by now become a mature minds stuff from 1977 till date.
donveejay wrote:
This kind of situation as been happening for a long time where men are arrested after Jolly in fact I ve been in that situation but was lucky to escape and 2 days later we went back to finish the Jolly.
With your statement above i ask must it keep happening? what if the Eyes and Butchers performed outstandingly only to meet an eventuality of possibility which is possible. That’s why I ask if we have been in circumstances like this and it keeps happening the we should change the setting or setup that brings us to premises were it happens.

It is rather unwise to take risk when there is no risk at all to be taken.

Mbata Mbete
OkHT’07
S’Eastern Zone

uhuru147:

Aye Axemen!!

I personally do not see what is wrong with holding Ini in the jungle or ITs in secret locations in Nigeria. We in Austria hold our Jolly in the Jungle and ITs in Locals, and Austria is a Police country. They have not come to boost our IT ground for once even with all the latest technologies at their disposal.

What we should check is the manner in which ayes carry out their activities and this never ending fighting and killings. When there is fighting my brothers, the Police will do everything possible to make sure they wipe out such groups whether be it in Nigeria or diaspora.

Recently the police boosted the Neo-Nazi group in Germany because they are an anti-social group even when they are German citizens, but the same Police have visited the venue where we were having a European Regional IT in Germany, though they know we were axemen, but since there was no crime committed or against us they left the same way they came.

Lord Kaduna Ezeogwu once posted here that NBM items and logos are displayed in Police stations in Benin, Nigeria; there are warnings against members by authorities, my brothers do you think where such alerts exist the police will not arrest members of such groups? Surely they will, it has nothing to do with our traditions but everything to do with fighting and killings that has become the norm in NBM.

So if we want things to go accordingly without the police arresting members, then we have to change this our business as usual attitude. Na so I see am reach.

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The truth did not say we shouldn’t tell it – Etsako Proverb

Jesse Makoko
Austria
KB’98

wariboko:

Aye Axemen!

I have never criticized the holding of Ini in secret place. I only opined that issues of Police arrest in Pre-Ini, Ini, and Post Ini times should not be treated with kid gloves because of the defamation of character of Strong Men Involved. Looking at Austria and Nigeria there is huge differences in Intelligence and understanding between the most country. It is very wrong to place comparison between the both country.

May I suggest. That before an Ini Holds the
1. Zone ought to be aware whether Temples or Kanta Temples.
2. Suggestions of Place of Ini should be Scrutinized by the Chief Butcher of the Zone (which in some Zones Butchers are Government Security Personnel)
3. Name and Total No. of whom to be initiated.
4. Interview on ITJ’s

May criticizing the point of reformation would cause more erection of unethical methodologies going on in this Movement. A review at some of the methodologies of how things are done will elevate the movement and also checkmate the “who is who” in the movement.

I rest my case.

Lord Mbata Mbete
OKHT’07
S’Eastern Zone

The Name of the Lord is a Strong Tower the Righteous runneth to it and they’re saved – Palsmist

uhuru147:

Lord Mbata Mbete

You may not know the meaning of a Police country ( its a place where the police is always on you checking for faults so they can make an arrest), do we have such police surveillance in Nigeria? Its not a fair comparison because we are exposed to greater risk
for partaking in NBM activities than ayes in Nigeria). If we are not arrested for NBM activities or practicing its traditions because we abide to law and orders, I do not see any reason why we should be arrested in Nigeria if we portray what we claim to be and remain law abiding. This is the starting point of cleansing; cleansing the attitude of aye/ Lords and not the tradition of having our Ini in the bush.

Judge for yourself if you were in the shoes of the law enforcement what you would rather have done to a group that never stops to fight? I bet you would look for them any where you hear they are gathered to arrest them. It is a pity that our brothers are arrested but there are issues or backlog of events that led to that decision of arresting them anywhere you find them which holding ini in the bush is the least of them.

Yes reformation is needed but not our ini or jolly procedures but everything to do with our immediate actions which impact the larger society. How to do you see that point?

Would they be arrested coming from ini ground if our actions were peaceful? But they would be arrested even though the ini ground was in a five star hotel in dubai owing to the bitter truth that we are fighting non-stop for years now. This is the problem and nothing else. If you refuse to see my point there is nothing I can do more. But thank God that the Zone is doing what is humanly possible to set them free. I hail you.

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The truth did not say we shouldn’t tell it – Etsako Proverb

Jesse Makoko
Austria
KB’98

orlansky:

Aye axemen,
My regard to all that has contributed to this thread the fact is alot of men has suffered from this police bursting in recent time few months ago my younger broda who was a temple butcher in udi escaped luckily as the police encircled them after jolly got home safely but was identified to the police by the temple head whose hand i believed were tied maybe after enough brutish NPF style and was arrestted as he was about taking his bath at home they were all rimanded to the prison custody at Ubiaja only to get bail in court after a month plus the case is still in court till date despite the cry for help no one responded but Lord Abebe Bikila was who was very inspiring.
Let call a spade a spade i fell bad for any true axeman passing hard times and whether we like it or not until a holistic overhaul is carried out in NBM we will continue to experience this untold bad situation and my opinion is…………

THE NATIONAL BODY MUST WAKE UP FROM SLUMBER TO FACE THEIR DUTY OF FIXING NBM WITHOUT BIASED BY BANNING TEMPLE INITIATION PERIOD.
Any undergraduate intending juus should channel their application through a links-man to the zona that has jurisdiction over the temple in otherwords initiation should be the exclusive preserve of the zone else we will see more arrest because NBM despite the CAC registration we talk about is not yet recognize maybe based on our activities that are inimical to modern safety and societal development.

seriously sad

Lord kaduna Nzeogwu 1
Ikp 97
Italian zone

uchvega:

Mii Lord Mbata Mbete S’Eastern Zone,

Security is off utmost importance in all NBM meetings. Do you think it’s more easier for the Police to burst Axemen in the bush rather than in some fancy hotel? If your answer is No! Then it still boils down to the question of fully functioning NBM offices and capable hands handling such responsibility.

First and foremost is secrecy. NBM in the Temples especially, should get back to the era when everything was secret. Nowadays, we find Axemen who want to display a badge proclaiming their membership, knacking Egede in every bar, pub or road-side joint or those screaming it from the rooftops.

* Date and Location of ITs should always be secret and a need-to-know basis. There is no such thing as”Our usual ground”. That mentality is a serious bane in the Temples as Axemen tend to become overly confident, sometimes out-rightly boastful.

* There should be several “take-off” LZs where Axemen attending should arrive and be coordinated from; to the location. A coordinated Temple should never allow Axemen to just simple waltz into and from the Ground (afterwards) from any direction they feel like. This helps in securing the location to a certain degree.

* Minimal discharge of FOUR should be encouraged, and maintained during Jolly. Excessive use is bound to draw attention especially if the Eyes did not take the time and zeal to locate a remote or secure Ground.

* Efforts must be made to remove stuff from the Ground after the Jolly. That could showcase the area being used for some clandestine purpose. Just incase, curious minds drawn to the strange night sounds wander into the location later – Sound waves travel great distances at night.

These measures and many more could be used to secure attendees.

I remember back in my days in Bemuda 1 HT. We always had atleast a two ring defensive perimeter around our Ground. Plus a steady rotation of the Guards by the Chief Butcher in coordination with the Chief Eye and the Suicide Squad Chairman (an office I noticed was predominating in eastern Temples).
We also located a few of the Biafran War era bunkers deep in the hills and jungles. These locations were used on several occasions to evade combined units of military, police and vigilante teams. I remember one night in 2002 during one of the Temple’s Initiation Jolly; the guards reported sightings of movement which later became a fire-fight. The police fired randomly and constantly because they couldn’t find the exact location. The Jolly was closed and all Axemen moved single file in quiet silence to one of those Biafran War era bunkers. We formed our defensive perimeters again at the new location and maintained vigilance till the morning. No return fire was ever permitted nor was Axemen allowed to drift off on their own, probably to their peril.
The Ground was so secure in terms of, no one would ever suspect that the area was being used that the Buccanners once tried to use the surrounding area for their own operations. They walked right close to one of the perimeter guard units with all their entire lobbers. Needless to say, they were still setting up camp when they were surrounded and flogged – Sea Lord and Lobber. Some were held until our activity finished at another location while some of the late-attending buccaneers chased off and fearing that their entire colleagues were at the mercy of Axemen went to report to the School Security and Anti-Cult Organization. They brought the security teams to the location they wanted to use and the police simply fired off shots into the air, hoping to receive return fire to enable them tag the Axemen’s location were disappointed. Axemen watched from afar!

In a nutshell, security and secrecy is of utmost importance be it, in the Temple or Zone (Diaspora or Homeland). What Lord would fancy having the cops at 3:00am in the morning waving a warrant and busting him infront of his wife and kids or grabbing him at his workplace, tarnishing his career. The need is the same wherever; The Temple or Zone must coordinate it’s activities with utmost decorum so that private lives of Axemen do not affect the common Ground of the Axemen in that Temple or Zone.

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Lord Askia Mohammed De 2nd
Bermuda 1 HT ’99
Malaysia Zone (Timbuktu)

wariboko:

Lord Jesse Makoko

I hail your reasonings that are sensible and conservative. I think your Temple at the then times hard this defensive method that the Nigeria Security Lacks and it was very much impossible for a counter team of any security agency to breakthrough, That must have been very difficult to implement though. But may i bring forth your attention to the present day NBM activities in the Temples, Your strategy or the defense Strategy of your then temple is omni present in most existing temples in NBM.

But One would ask why does this unfortunate circumstance keep resurfacing? and When it does people carrier are sometimes put into jeopardy as a result of the police prosecution and litigation?

when you give the preceding criteria for holding a well organized INI. I saw no difference with the former and existing protocols. Holding an organized Ini does not involve the use of hotel halls. I strongly thing a collective and cumulative input on this issue would bring a refined process that will be security conscious and safe.

I hail.

Mbata Mbete
OKHT’07
S’Eastern Zone

The revolution is not an apple that falls when it is ripe. You have to make it fall. – Che Guevara

Patrice Lumumba:

Mbata Mbete

U have heard it all from seasoned Lords, (jesse makoko, Lord Askia Mohammed, Kaduna Nzeogwu), it bothers on security, secrecy and the attitude of Axemen.

i think it was Lord Haile Selassie (Kiriji) nthat posted back in the days before jolly Axemen use to gather at the bus stop in lagos having fun even with security men, bus drivers, basically everyone there at the stop before heading to the bush, and they know they are going to the bush, how come they were not busted before, during and when coming back from bush? i will tell you, think about what Jesse Makoko, Head Austria Zone said.

Seems to me that you are afraid of going into the bush, because of the busting, but if things are done like the “seasoned lords” said, there is nothing to be scared about, unless u just hate going to the bush

I greet you
Aye Nelson Mandela
Ada 06′

Lord Mikie:

Lord Mbata Mbete,

I salute in the name of Korofo. I feel ur pains as I have suffered such in the past.
There have been a time I was shown on local televison, with the police laying false alligation on me and displaying arms and ammunitions claiming i was caught with them just because I went for an ini J. thanks to Korofo, I was neither jailed nor rusticated due to the timely intervention of a lord who is now a legislator.
Now that nor mean say me go say make we hold J for town or hotel as the case may be.
if you search thoroughly into black history you will find that in most African ethnic groups, as a child develops to an extent, the child is circumcised and subsequently passed through initiation process which where always held at night and in the bush. Men like Jomo kenyata, Nelson Mandela and a whole lot of our African heroes passed through this proccess.

it has been incoporated into our beloved NBM, lets enjoy it.

now, what I can say is that, like a lord i met in Warri, if I’m right, he is the coordinator effurun sub zone, told me that in his temple days, they notify security agents each time an ini is fixed. if all zonal bodies can take it upon themselves and try to alleviate the hardship faced by the temple ayes during ini by notifying security agents, most importantly, the police, i believe it will go a long way.

Lord Mbata,if u can, please reach me on 08035765428. I just relocated to PH and may need your help.

Aye axe men

lord Fayika

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If what you know can not change you, then change what you know!!!

 

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